What is Gemini woman supposed to do with a hot black-eyed Scorpio man?
geogoddess provided a birth time (click chart to view) and writes,He's freaky gorgeous. Its like having Jim Morrison in my bedroom. He wandered into my life all full of privacy and black-eyed mystery, I would have sworn he was sleeping with several other women (well I was seeing several other guys). But he hurt himself at work, and came here; within weeks he had eased into a comfortable life in my house- moving his stuff in, slowly and methodically, first his dog, then his climbing gear... Eventually I had to tell my other guys I had a boyfriend. That was odd for me. I don't have any trouble attracting men, i'm an attractive green-eyed lithe woman. He is 10 years younger than me. If i let him lead in sex, i get exactly what I want: he nails me passionate & gentle and hard at the same time; yet i almost feel nervous initiating with this man. i'd love to surrender to him, if he is strong enough to handle me. I am a very strong and passionate woman and like my men to run deep yet be outwardly calm. He is chatty and funny and incredibly intelligent. He hasn't opened up spirtually or emotionally with me yet altho I see its there, yet there is some detachment. what is his dark side like? I am in no hurry, but will he open up? If I ask, he'll only say that I shouldn't get too attached, yet here he is. Actions speak louder than words. Is he falling in love with me but too reluctant to admit it yet? Is he here to stay? What does he want?I wonder if you were really born just a few minutes later, because then you would have Taurus Rising instead of the last degree of Aries on your Ascendant. Opposite your Taurus Ascendant, you'd have Scorpio on your Descendant, or Seventh House cusp. With Mars -- traditional ruler of Scorpio -- in Taurus, you'd be attracted to a man who is deep (Scorpio) but outwardly calm (Taurus). Pluto trines your Mars, bringing a depth and intensity to a partner and your own sexual drive. Mars is also in a stressful opposition (180-degree angle) to Neptune in your Seventh House. Neptune is the planet of dreams and spirituality, contributing to an idealization of men, as well as a tendency towards seeing what you want to see in them. Add to this a square from Saturn to both Mars and Neptune (a T-square), bringing a sense of restraint, delay and inhibition, as well as a feeling of frustration in manifesting your dreams and expressing your desires.
Your progressed Venus in Virgo is just leaving a conjunction to your progressed Pluto -- an indication of obsession and powerful sexual drives in relationship. Your progressed Moon in Pisces will square progressed Mars in Gemini and then oppose progressed Pluto and Venus over the course of July, stimulating these energies. Your dreaminess (Pisces) will come up against your more critical faculties (Gemini, Virgo).
Scorpios take time to come out. The detachment of Saturn in Aquarius (in aspect to Mars) plus the hidden quality of Pluto (also in aspect to Mars) contribute to his slowness (Mars in Taurus) in revealing himself. Yet I'm sure the spirit (Neptune) is there.
The cynic in me wonders if this Scorpio man just needed a place to stay, and you're offering that ... plus sex. My sense is that come end of July (after the progressed Moon has passed her exact opposition to Pluto-Venus) you'll have a better idea of what's up, having had the clarity (opposition) to see how your sexual desires (with progressed Venus in your natal Fifth House of Playful Sex) inform your decisions.
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posted by Jeffrey Kishner at 6/22/2007
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Dude, you're not the only cynic here. I thought the same thing because a) what's with the gradual moving in without a discussion? and b) GeoGoddess can obviously write so I immediately intuited some Neptunian/Piscean traits in her personality (which can be faboo for the arts but more problematic when it comes to reality). Is this guy really that great? Not all still waters run deep. Sometimes they're just stagnant. I don't know, GeoGoddess, personally I'd be irritated by the fact that he moved in without discussing it. Does he offer to pay half the rent or the utilities? Does he pay for food, does he pick up after himself, does he at least work? It all sounds very dreamy and erotic (you can earn $$ writing, girl) and I can relate but, personally, if a guy doesn't pull his own weight, well, he loses his masculinity in my eyes. That may be the Latin woman in me but a guy who's a freeloader gives me "pena ajena", meaning that I'm embarrassed on his behalf.
I hear you! I am a Gem girl (venus in Taurus) who has fallen for a guy Capricorn ( Venus in Scorp). He is a Cap guy but I would swear Scorp plays a bigger part in the "us" department.
Those freaking eyes! And the way he reacts to me... Drives me insane. And he is years younger.
I'm never sure if he is in to me or just playing games to build his own ego and it drives me crazy!
He will text me something sexy and sweet, then ignore me for days... He says he wants me, but only when I act like I couldn't care less if I get with him or not.
We haven't gone any farther than kissing...if you disregard the very erotic text we send back and forth.
Not sure about this guy. Keeps me guessing. I guess that is what makes a Gem girl so interested in a Scorp guy.
Any Gem ladies out there making it work with a Scorp guy?
Me: May 21, 68 He: Dec 25, 75
Jeff, I'm glad you answered as you did, otherwise I would have wondered if I could or should speak up.
I have to say I'm very appreciative that you have been straightforward lately about obsessive and addictive romance and sexual matters.
I'm not even concerned that he moved in "without discussion" because it was still accepted by the Gemini lady.
But--I agree with Eme- I know for a fact that still waters don't necessarily run deep...and the red and black seas don't necessarily part for us, even when they do run deep..
I don't know what "if he is strong enough to handle me" even means--wishful thinking about both party's sexual prowess/ability is my guess.
My suggestion to the Gemini-enjoy having sex with him, and see if there's more to it.
If you think he'll say "don't get attached"--don't say anyhting like that in the first place.
But--that statement means he doesn't want to get attached--so, even if he does--he won't accept it anyway.(I've been there)
I've won over guys like that too.
......And what did I win, may I ask? ;-)
If the answers to some of these questions are so obvious, why do I bother with the astrological chart delineations?
I think that the Scorpio guy in this case should be avoided. I'm not a psychologist or astrologist, nor do I think that it's essential to be one in this case in order to tell that this whole thing looks desolate.
To me, it seems like he is using the whole situation to his advantage. I am going to go out on a limb here and generalize a tad; I don't think that a Scorpio guy (...or anyone in general) would just crash at someone's place just like that with an intention of building a relationship.
I speak for myself only but I'm sure some people can identify when I say that when I meet people, I'd like to know them for a very decent while to ensure that they are trustworthy and that we have mutual communication, before jumping them.
Moreover, the Gemini-female in this case seems like somewhat of a flirty and virile person who likes the whole sexual and social game of attraction. Assuming that the Scorpio-male is looking for a relationship with that woman is illogical for me.
Scorpio or not, that scenario has "USING-TO-ADVANTAGE-AND-CONVENIENCE" written all over it, in my eyes.
I can also relate because I feel like I've been in a similar position as the Scorpio-male in this case. Maybe I'm projecting my own experience on this whole thing, but this just doesn't seem good.
If the sex with no attachement and the fact that the Scorp-dude is "leeching off" of the Gemini-female doesn't bother her, then I see no room for great concern. However, I wouldn't count on steady relationship in this case. In my opinion, this seems like a good fling or an affair at convenience at its best.
If it doesn't bother her, there's no cause for great concern? I couldn't disagree more. Maybe it's not bothering her at the moment, when she's still intoxicated by the prospect of love and by good sex but that's not to say that it won't be hurtful in the future. That's what I see as the big danger in this situation. From the tone of the letter, Gemini woman isn't seeing things clearly.
Also, any decent person would be ashamed of themselves for using someone as blatantly as the Scorpio male is doing. As human beings, we may run into opportunities to take advantage of someone who seems only too happy to be our willing victim but most of us have enough of a conscience for that to bother us and stop of us from seizing the opportunity. It'd be one thing entirely if Scorpio male, needing a place to stay and some care (since he was injured), had been honest enough with the woman to ask her if she'd be so generous as to let him stay at her place. And a really decent person would still offer something as payment. I mean, damn, I'd be ashamed to just mooch off anyone! But it sounds like he took advantage of her infatuation, to insinuate himself into her life without giving much in return (other than sex). I mean, come on, if Gemini woman was really seeing clearly, she wouldn't have written to Jeff about the potential of this relationship. She'd just be enjoying a fling. When the scales fall from her eyes, it's going to hurt like a motherfucker. Now, if she sees things clearly and says to herself: "This guy needs a place to stay and in the meantime, I can have great sex and help him, but I won't expect more from him", that's another story altogether. But from the tone of the letter, that's not what's happening. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been in a situation that seemed fine and dandy at first, only to be hurt greatly in the end when my self delusion came crashing down.
This is clearly a case in which people don't need astrology. But often, we turn to astrology or Tarot bc we want confirmation that our wishful thinking is not so farfetched. Jeff's astrological analysis just validates common sense and destroys Gemini woman's wishful projections. And if that's what it takes for Gemini woman to take stock and protect herself, so be it.
I definitely agree with the comments from all of you.
As Jeff says, it is so obvious he probably didn't need to analyse the chart. And yes, many people hope that astrology will them the answer they want to hear.
It sounds like a fling, but I might be cynical...and I thInk too, if you want to have a firm basis to your relationship, you would want to check out how trustworthy and reliable a person is. That takes time.There would be no need for second guessing that other person's feeling. It seems too risky, in that respect
If Gemini woman isn't concerned about the guy moving in, etc, then that's ok. But does he help pay the bills, etc, etc.
And if she says she's told her other dates she has a boyfriend, then this must mean, it is a relationship with both the physical and spiritual elements evolving . That should speak volumes too. She wouldn't need reassurance?
Some times, yes, still waters can mean stagnant, sadly.
M, from the Uk
Jeff, I think while it might seem obvious to many of us how this situation is we really don't know for a fact.
Your astrological delineations are still noteworthy--A.because GeoGoddess asked you, and B because you explained how *she* might be reacting and feeling due to her progressed planets.I thought that might be very important for her actually.
First off: I have a Fifth House of Playful Sex? That explains A LOT!!
‘K, I asked Jeff for help because I have never dated a Scorpio guy, and this man confused me- so hot, so private and so sweet... I needed help to know what to expect. If he was going to stay bottled up forever, I'm not interested. (you know us Geminis, we're SO easily bored). I should have mentioned he's supposed to be moving out of state at the end of the summer, so "dont get attached" isn't a terribly inappropriate warning- for either of us. Now, I wonder if he wasn't saying it to himself, more than me.
I run my own business & have a7-yr old son I love dearly- with all that responsibility, I needed a reminder to relax and let things evolve. Jeffs comment that "Scorpios take time to come out" helped me do that. I let the guy know I was interested and then stepped back to see. Sure as anything, he came forward & opened up -in a very loving (not JUST sexy) way. I feel cared for, for the first time in years. He wraps me up & holds me, physically and emotionally. Are Scorpios really this sweet? And yes, he's stepped up domestically, the dude has a job, gets outta bed at 6;30 and works outside all day; he took over the cooking (i am a great cook, so no jokes!) buys the beer (DUH!), babysits my son so I can go mtn biking with his best friend (go figure), re-wired all the technical gadgets in my house (thank god), and we jsut spent our wkend doing a wacky combination of Costco and rock climbing. Sex is intimate, hot & frisky!! Works for me :)
If its a fling, its a really good fling. I'm alright with that. If he winds up NOT moving at the end of summer, I will have to figure out what to do with him then (stay tuned). In the meantime, my mission is going to be this: To practice that Zen paradox of being able to move deeply into something that you know you're letting go of.
Geo-goddess, I'm glad to have seen your post, because I was afraid you felt misunderstood or judged.I wanted to say something to you, even before I relaized you had not responded here again.
It sounds to me like you know what you're doing--at least right now.
In my experience often men do say things that they are saying to themselves as well as to us..
I can tell by the glimpse at your chart that you're younger than I, but not a whole heckuva lot.
You are clearly not a child, although, if you're like me, sexual and romantic relations can bring out the teenager in me.
I can suggest this to you--if you get confused or become upset later with what you're feeling about this Scorpio--re-read and take seriously what you wrote and told Jeff, and all of us you are planning on doing--regardless of what *he*(Scorpio) does.
Take care of you, andas you said, your son, first.
Then, your relationship with Scorpio man.
Good luck to you.
"he nails me passionate & gentle and hard at the same time" WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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