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Saturday, November 25, 2006

If I back off from Taurus man will he want me more?


The question implies that the querent was encroaching on the Taurus man's turf, and he responded in kind by digging in his heels. He probably felt threatened. You see, the Taurus man is not keen on change. He needs to feel secure, and if a woman tries to change the perimeter of his fence, he won't budge an inch.

If the Taurus man feels he is going to lose whatever provides him security, his fear-response will kick in. He needs to know you won't force him to move too fast. After all, he's worked hard to acquire his hard-earned plot of land, and he's not going to let go of it easily.

So you step back. Will you -- in having given him room to roam -- trigger in him a greater desire for you?

There are two things you must remember: Taurus does not like change, and Taurus loves comfort. The first part comes from being a fixed sign, the second comes from being ruled by Venus, goddess of sensual pleasure. His modus operandi is to seek and acquire that which is beautiful and feels good to his body. Yet he's not going to take many risks to do so. He will be slow, cautious and persistent ... but if he really wants it, he will get it, just in his own sweet time.

So you need to appeal to his desire for the finer things in life, without being too unconventional (Aquarian), intense (Scorpionic) or dramatic (Leonine). Be like the water in a stream, the smooth rocks on an incline, the moss blanketing a tree. He will come to you, dip his toes in the water or feel the contours of your surface, and nestle in your curves if it feels good and safe.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The posts I am reading today speak to me directly!
my son is a taurus, thankfully with a sag moon though. He seems to enjoy change. But with me a scorpio with a aquarius moon, I am a bit too shocking and unconventional for him and his father/leo is a bit too dramatic for him What a set up we have! LOL. He is a great kid even with us as parents

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This post spoke to me too. The day it was posted, I finally heard back from a Taurus man I am interested in. I was afraid that as an Aries I had come on too strong and scared him off. But after a week and a half of silence, he finally came around. And I am so pleased that I had the patience to let him do so!

11:44 PM  
Blogger Jeffrey Kishner said...

I am glad to hear that this post has spoken to you. It is a challenge to be patient, especially with an Aries Sun!

9:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An absolutely gorgeous Taurus man, who is the picture of innocence has hurt me so. It's been almost a year and I can't forget about him.

He still calls me but I do not pick up the phone. He does't know what he is doing wrong, and that he is mentally torturing me.

Yes I'm physically attracted to him, and it's driving me to distraction but I know I can't take the heartbreak any longer so I avoid him.

Now I need to heal and move on...because I am not interested in anyone else...he's put me off men badly..

Oh I am a weak in the knees Piscean woman and very sensual. I tried swimming away before, but he lured me back somehow, a few times.
This can't go on.

8:42 PM  
Blogger Jeffrey Kishner said...

Piscean woman,

I wish you the best in healing from your heart-wound. A Taurus may not be as emotionally attuned as you, so it makes sense that he would not get how he hurt you.

10:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks...people keep telling me this....that he loved me as much as he could and that he really does not understand how he hurt me, or continues to hurt me.

If he doesn't want me he should leave me alone!

11:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Jeffrey...

I have dated a taurus man for the past 2 years and last month he ask me to be his gf... The thing is he's not here with me..he comes comes back to me(hometown)every 2-3 month once...we meet from one of the website..then we become close n now he's my bf.He even pay for my tix in oder for me to see him.(that time i was not his gf yet) I have been thru a lot of things..b4 we r together there is a lot of excuses from him not to be together.. first he say that family problem, then xgf problem.. do u think that taurus man like to make excusses n lie?? Now also is hard for me to trust me...

4:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This definatly appeals to me. I HAD A tARUS GUY THAT WAS REALLY KEEN ON ME INICIALLY but i felt that he was coming on too strong and felt that he was not serious, boy was i wrong.
Sooner than i new it the tables fliped and i said something with my impulsive aries nature that threw my Taurus right off!
now he has been backing off and is making m do all the chasing!
but ive done all i could now so its left to him, and he got in contact with me yesterday after a week!!!

2:51 PM  
Anonymous Whatever said...

"Be like the water in a stream, the smooth rocks on an incline, the moss blanketing a tree. He will come to you, dip his toes in the water or feel the contours of your surface, and nestle in your curves if it feels good and safe"

Now that is SWEET. If words can paint pictures, you produced a Van Gogh

may I add: if things be too slow and sweet, speed Tauro up a notch by waving a little RED (lingerie) an' you gotta the bull by the horns, STEAMED and raring to go

4:10 PM  
Anonymous whatever said...

oh yeah, red works good for Aries too, 'xcept they run out of steam faster

Tauro just keeps goin and goin and goin 'til you're gone (like passed out)

4:14 PM  
Blogger Camey said...

Oh Thank you so much for the beautiful words, they really do help so much with my current situation. But perhaps if I lay all my cards on the table, someone could give me the direct advice I need.

I'm a cancer woman who had just recently been heartbroken by a Sag man about 30 some days ago. And this whole time that I had been with him, his friend [A Taurus Man] had gotten really close to me, (he had given me advice about my relationship with the Sag and was always there for me) it wasn't until after the Sag had broken up with me I was asked if I would help plan his suprise b-day party. The kind of person I am, I couldn't reject the offer. Plus I still had somewhat feelings for him. I basically wanted closure.

At the party, the Taurus man had asked for my cell phone number right in front of my ex-Sag.. which was quite funny. Soon after that the Taurus man had texted me and asked me to go to the movies with him, I did and had a wonderful time. But I've noticed that he's not very social with me in school. Honestly, I don't have any classes with him and I've rarely seen him and when we do, we often smile and say Hi.. but that's it. Other than other school activites after school.

About 2 days after I had gone on the date with him, I had finally gotten a text from him. [which is today] asking me if I was going to go to the Christmas dance this saturday. I had all hopes that he was going to ask me..Which then he texted, "So, did anyone ask you"
Which then I replied, "No" .. He then said. "Oh well I'd offer to go with you but I've already said yes to somebody else, I'm sorry"

To say the least It was upsetting, but I decided to play "cool" and just laugh it off and say things like "Oo La La, she's a lucky girl" and everything.

I guess my question is, from looking at this short [yes, short] explanation of what's been going on, could it be possible that he is interested? And if he is, how can I show him that I'm interested in him, or at least at the dance?

thanks for your time. :]

10:31 PM  
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4:48 PM  
Blogger Eme Kah said...

Camey: there are two issues here. One is the Taurus' behavior. Let's outline it, okay?

1. He gets close to you while you're going out with Sag, giving you advice about the relationship.
2. Sag breaks up with you.
3. After Sag breaks up with you, while you're still reeling, Taurus asks you to help him plan Sag's surprise bday party. Sounds kind of messed up, dontcha think? Bc obviously you're hurt from the break-up. Closure takes time and doesn't just happen by arranging an event or meeting the person one last time, etc.
4. At Sag's birthday party (could this be right?), his friend Taurus asks you out (Sag's ex-gf). Imagine if your best friend moved in on your (very recent) ex at your birthday party. How would you feel about your best friend?
5. Now that you're hooked, Taurus drops you.
6. He then asks if you were invited somewhere else (knowing that you'll wonder if he means to ask YOU to the event) and then says, Oops, I'm going with someone else.

Does this sound like someone you really want in your life, girl? Camey, it sounds like your Taurus is kinda Scorpionic there. He is playing mind-games both with you and the Sag ex.

In the meantime, it's only been 30 days. My advice is to feel the pain of a break-up. Hang out to dry for a while. Right now you're still post-break-up, you've experienced a loss and you're vulnerable to people like this dubious Taurus. And, please, next time, take my advice and be EXTREMELY cautious about confiding in others regarding your relationship, especially at the beginning.

4:52 PM  
Blogger Jeffrey Kishner said...

@camey, Maybe the Taurus man is just dense and has no idea how his actions are affecting you.

5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have started dating a taurus guy two weeks back. After two dates, we spent last whole weekend together. We both had decided to hang out as friends and take our time but we got physically intimate to some level. He felt bad next day that he does not want to hurt me as he cannot commit or make any decisions for long time. I convinced him that its normal and he got comfortable. I really like this guy and I don't want him to think that I am a girl who will make out with every guy I date right away. I feel we rushed pretty fast considering taurus man like to go slow. How do I know if he likes me? I am not thinking of timepass relationship with him but something serious in end. please help me. how to approach him now. he still talks to me but I feel I did mistake of staying over at his place which rushed us into things he was not ready for.

12:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi..I am an aries gal..I Met this taurus guy about 3 months ago on the net..wr are now good friends..we have gone out just once..he asked if I would be free any other time..Since I was busy I cld not give a concrete answer..Before we met in person he would call me atleast once a day...now he does not really call or message but he makes sure that we always talk on the Yahoo messenger..I donot know if he is really interested in me or is he just fooling around..I know he cares about me from the way he chats over the messenger..but I am truly confuse..I make it a point to message him everyday...Do you think I should lie low for a while and see if he actually calls back.??plz help me..

3:45 AM  
Anonymous The Rules Book said...

"Do you think I should lie low for a while and see if he actually calls back.??"

Yes, do just that. Get busy elsewhere, forget about him, and see if he remembers you.

Let the man do the chasing.

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Common Sense said...

To the Anonymous Previous who asked, "please help me, how to approach him now"

Don't. As in, don't approach him now.

The same Anonymous then confessed, "I feel I did mistake of staying over at his place which rushed us into things he was not ready for."

Retract this confession, it is incorrect.

Restate as follows, "I feel I did mistake of staying over at his place which rushed us into things I was not ready for."

8:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clarification: Men are always ready for sex. Women are not. Staying over at his place rushed you into something you are not ready for, ie. loving a man who doesn't want to get married to you and just wants to have a good time as your friend.

He's doing just fine, and got what he wanted, plus a side serving of apprehension since he can't (or won't) deliver what you wanted. Rest assured he knows what you want; he sounds like he has plenty experience. What you want makes him nervous.

What he is not ready for is marriage. Not with you, not right now, probably not anytime soon. He is a Taurus, perhaps you care about him enough that you can wait patiently for him to change? No, unfortunately it is never a good idea to wait for anyone to change. You may have grey hair and bifocals by then.

Quit while you're ahead, and nab a man while you still can.

8:29 PM  
Anonymous LS9 AWD said...

Ok, as a Taurean man, let me tell you something: I cannot stand wasting my time on a girl who is a tease. I was once trying to date a Libra girl who would not respond to my advances (there were MANY), so I eventually dropped her for another, more interested woman. She grew jealous of the woman I eventually replaced her with, but at that point, I could care less because I had given her more than enough chances.

If other Taurus guys are anything like me, then they will not be impressed at all by a girl who backs off and plays it too cool.
If you are truly interested in a Taurus man, do not, I repeat, DO NOT back off (Disinterest, at least for me, kills any sense of affection. I figure it probably works like a charm on Leo guys, but if my sentiments are any indication, it backfires on Taurus men). Instead, concentrate on sincerity. Try being helpful in ways that go beyond sex. Cook meals, help out with chores, be comforting, etc. You must demonstrate both character and sincere interest.
Here's why: Being the slow, steady, cautious type, we have a natural sense of defense toward femme fatale types who are just trying to use us. If I feel that a girl is trying to use/or deceive me, I will cut her off in a heartbeat. Simply stated, women like that make me sick. I don't care how attractive or popular they are, they sicken me. Period.
If, on the other hand, I see that a woman truly cares about me, I will do everything in my power to return the affection and care. So long as I can believe in her, I will not stray, and I will not stop providing.

You see, if the girl simply backs off, a Taurus guy will never get to see her caring side and being the pragmatic s.o.b. he is, will write her off as disinterested and move on to the next girl. If the girl is patient, and understands the ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL point that she must first earn his trust, then she's in like Flint, so long as she doesn't betray him severely.

I hope this helps.

1:39 AM  
Anonymous Victoria said...

I adore Taurus men. They are so REAL.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous LJ said...

what I find most annoying about taurus men is that they need constant praise. They want you to want them and they want to be wanted, therefore they will settle for a woman that they can easily have in the palm of their hands (no matter how much or how little desire the have towards the person) instead working for the "apple at the top of the tree" that they are truly craving. Also, they seem to have a fear of MAKING THE FIRST MOVE. As sextrology said, trying to start a relationship with a taurus is alot like pulling teeth. Yet still, I seem to hopelessly attracted to these strong, silent types but I consider myself to be one of the "apples at the top of the tree" so you already know how that goes!!! They ARE very real though.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been in a relationship with a taurus man for almost a year now. We live about an hour away from each other and both have buzy life. We visit each other about every 1-2 weeks. I would like him to move to the city with me. Hovewer, he is typical taurus: stays in his comfort zone, slow mover with much more patience than me. He currently has a good job that provides him stability. Like previous post. He also reponds well to a week of silence and not being forced into changing. I am a cancer lady who needs reassurance that things might just work out.

Any advices on how to handle this ?

9:09 AM  
Anonymous ls9awd said...

Hey, anonymous 9:09, as strange as it sounds, you may actually be doing quite well with him. Taurus guys have a tendency to kind of "run on autopilot" when they're happy. By this, I mean if you are separated from him in any way, he's likely not going to go haywire and start pulling stunts behind your back, like some of the other guys you may have dated would. Just a bit of sweet love and adoration every now and then, and he's very likely set (provided said adoration comes without infidelity and/or prodigious nagging - but you probably already knew that).

If I were him, I'd probably be thinking to myself on how I could maintain both my career and relationship. Both are important commitments, and just as he is loyal to you, he is going to be loyal to his employer.

Chances are, if you really are the sweet, caring Cancer archetype (wish I could find me one of those!), he is eventually going to try to move heaven and earth to hold on to you AND try to be able to provide- so don't worry too much. It's just that maintaining a career path (which allows him to provide for you) and moving are daunting prospects at best and he's likely to try to plan these out in detail before moving ahead.

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:09

Thanks for the reply ls9awd. It does make me feel better. I hope you are right on that one. I just find it so difficult to not have him around. But even when we lived in the same town he was still very much concentrated on his job. I would see him every 3-4 days and then we would both work our ass off and then have a nice relaxing supper together.

He remains a strong silent type who won't tell me he loves me but will show me. I find it hard to not hear the words (I know so typical girl) but I find I need those to make the dougting disappear. I wonder if that makes sense ? I am very much so a Cancer. Very in tune with my emotions and he's not.

Will that ever change u think ?

9:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW. Jeffery and Is9awd. Thank you SO much. Let me tell you something about me. I am a mid 30's TRUE 100% in every aspect of the term Scorpio women. And I am TOTALLY 100% in love with a Tauras man. Within myself, I have fought this as much as I possibly can. But I cant shake it. I have known this man since around Sept of 2005. We meet through Yahoo...(thanks yahoo chat rooms) We talked and became really in tune w/each other so we meet in March. We drove 2 1/2 hours to meet because he said he feel like we were getting close & he wanted to see about taking it farther (into a relationship) so he wanted to meet to make sure his vibes in person were as strong as our phone & pc vibes. So we meet, OMG, I need not say how excited we were, and how very much I enjoyed him and he me (you know when men are vibing with you) so we went to a movie, Mission Impossible (how fitting) and a nice dinner, sat in the car and conversed. It was wonderful! Like heaven sent to be exact. Then we hugged and went back to our homes, and continued to talk....everything was fine then. NOTHING! For almost a year, we went without talking. I was devastated! A WRECK! So one day I sent (making the story really SHORT!) him a myspace message, with my current contact info. He blew my phone UP! Finally we talked, and the first thing he did was appologize over and over, and told me he gave up on us because he recieved threats from a man. I assured him it didnt have anything to do with me. THat was impossible! So he said he was sorry for the lost time, and I said okay, its alright lets move on. So we did. We have been even MORE consistant with talking than we were before we stopped talking. Let me tell you its been HEAVEN! Because of my fear, of loosing him again (no we arent OFFICALLY DATING) but he always comments on my mysterious nature...and basically my scorpio ways. He doesnt know much about scorpio women but he comments alot on who I am. Which always goes back to the characteristics of a scorpio. So life continues....he calls me on Christmas eve...and says, guess what? I say yes? He says my brother and I was getting ready to walk out the door to drive down there (from NY to NC) to surprise you for Christmas, spend time with you and your family! But we had unexpected surprise from out family and cant come! I was FLOORED! I was like sweetheart thats SO nice....so time passes. He gets the LOVELY gift I sent him for Christmas, and he loves it, time pasts...mind you we havent seen each other since the 1st time we meet! So he calls me on Valentines, to make a long ROMANTIC story short he surprises me, and makes a special trip to come see me on VALENTINES DAY! I went to go see him and it was GRAND! We just talked, listened to music looked at pictures, flirting w/each other by way of conversation, smiles, looks, etc etc...he meet my 10 year old son....etc etc.....

But this is it. I am the scorpio, so I am like waiting for him to ask me the ULTIMATE QUESTION! Will you go steady with me? And I have YET TO HEAR IT! He is slow and steady like a typical tauras man! I spoil, him, I care for him, I send him little texts, voice messages, and being me...seduce him in a sudtle way (spelling, sorry) any chance I can. I know he vibes with me...basically likes me. And I feel the same about him. But does he LOVE me like I LOVE HIM? I havent told him I love him...because I dont want to rush or push him...and I have told him I dont want to rush or push him. But I love this man so deeply its like a press on me, at times. Its beautiful, but I am trying to be patient. How much longer do I have to wait? I told him I wanted us to pick up where we left off when we stopped talking....I dont want to crowd him but I love him so much, its...I dont know. He LOVES to hear how I feel about him and I believe he thrives on it. But because I have been SO hurt in the past, its hard for me to tell him without feeling threatned. He encourages me, to move past that feeling and tell him anyway. But he isnt telling me anything. So I stopped asking him. I just feel as if he MIGHT love me...but would rather show it than say it. I also think he is afraid. He is very talented, and motivated to success, and always thinking ahead career wise, and I am the same way. We are very compatible in alot of ways. So, I feel like we could make it as a couple. But we have two major challenges. I am a christian, so I dont engage in sex. And he is not. Although I LOVE SEX, I just have choosen in the last 3 years not to. He said its okay, he will work through it, but thats not his practice. I have to fight it sometimes, because I want to just eat him UP! He told me not to worry, because it didnt change how he sees me, or feels about me. But of course, didnt tell me how he felt! Despite this he is still vibing with me. He says he respects me, and applauds me. And that it didnt matter to him. This happen before the Valentines surpise! Also he lives in NY now, I am in NC, and he travels in his current career.

I am sorry to take up so much space and time, but what is a girl to do? Does he want me, love me, like me? I mean I feel he does through his actions, but DOES HE????

Signed Standing firm, yet "DUMB FOUNDED in LOVE"

10:37 AM  
Anonymous LS9AWD said...

To the previous two anonymous posters, my personal recommendation is to not beat around the bush and be direct about how you feel. Men appreciate when women are direct and honest. We appreciate the hell out of this. Really. You have no idea how often men of all signs complain about women not specifically telling them what they want. I can't read your minds, and neither can either of your boyfriends.

It seems like you have an irrational fear of everything blowing up the minute you let down your defenses and let out a little honesty. It's pretty obvious from the descriptions given in both your posts that your men are very much into you (especially you Scorpio girl). I highly doubt that they will head for the hills once you let them in on your feelings. If anything, I suspect it would drive them closer (at least that's how I would react).

There is no need for head games with a committed, interested, guy. Just continue showing him love and appreciation, and for heaven's sake, be honest about your feelings. The truth will set you free.

As for Scorpio girl particularly, if you do love him, then why don't you start acting like it! It's been THREE WHOLE years and you haven't even told him you love him yet?! Also, not one instance of carnal relations this whole time?!
WOW. Lady, most other men would have been out the door like a bat out of hell 2 1/2 years ago. It's plain as day that he has some potent feelings for you. You're lucky he hasn't come across a more direct and *evidently* interested woman during this time, or there's a chance you'd have become a distant memory, like the Libra I mentioned in the first post. My suggestion is that you first come clean to him about what you feel. Next, if the feeling is mutual, why not put some of that famous Scopionic sex drive to work? God didn't give birds wings so they could sit on ground all day, if you catch my drift. If you have to marry him first, then so be it, but keep in mind, he may be put off by marriage. If he's like me, it's not the concept that scares him (the concept is wonderful), but the reality. For more info on that, google the term "marriage strike" and you'll understand what I mean. I myself, after a recent bad breakup, have recently discovered the Tom Leykis show (he's a jerk, but I keep seeing his words proven right) and I'm beginning to see my tendency to be monogamous and devoted as a severe personal character flaw.

Anyway, both of you ladies seem like good girlfriends and I wish you luck in your relationships. Remember, honesty is best.

1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Is9awd. I am the scorpio woman you referred to. ;) I am SO SCARED! I have told him how I feel and I told him that I DEEPLY care for him, moreso now than I EVER DID! We arent OFFICALLY dating, but we may as well be. He says things to me to suggest we are. Is that the "NEW" way of dating seriously? To date, but not offically say, lets go steady? I have been thinking this for quite sometime now! I mean I can tell him that I love him, but I dont want him to feel as if he has to say it back or I am pushing him into a relationship. OFFICAL relationship. That "EMAIL" I told you I sent him, or did I tell you? At the end I told him that I had to tell him how I felt about him, in fear that I would loose him, and he would never know...and then I put, I am sorry if I made you feel as if you had to rush this relationship thingy. So with that said you think I should tell him that I love him? I mean I have the guts to tell him....however who do you think he will feel? Rushed? Oh goodness, you men! I keep reading like on every website I can, trying to understand you guys. But everything I read, or hear, or see on TV...says we women are the complex ones. I even heard that men are simple they didnt think this deep about things. I just want to be sure, totally sure. I dont want to mess up, b/c I love him too much! I'd just melt into the ground, and start going through one of my famous (storms) as some astrologists would call them. Hmmmm, can I hire you and Jeff as my personal consultants? Thank you!

Signed blazing Scorpio!

11:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am the same aquarian girl who dated a taurus man twice and spent a weekend together.He got scared of getting attached so early so we decided to be friends and not do any stay overs. Recently he went to meet other girl he started talking and told me he needs a elder female like her who can babysit him and take care of him. Is it bcoz things were rushed which is not taurus man types? I don't like to babysit anybody so I am good knowing this.

10:41 AM  
Anonymous lj said...

No anon, I dont think its because things were rushed. He probably didn't mind the hook with you at all. but a taurus man is supposedly attracted to dominant women who'll treat him as a trophy while indulging his notorious little boy habits... so you really are better off if that's not your thing.

12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Blazing Scorpio, I told the TAURAS man FINALLY that I love him. So, he will not have to GUESS how I feel, if I love him etc etc. I have yet to hear from him.

Do I have egg on my face? After this, STUNT, as I call it now. I have thrown in the towel. And I am moving on.

Doesnt change my feelings for him. However I cant put my life on hold, waiting for him to come around.

Yes, I love him. But I will have to live with it, until I can dissolve my feelings. Hopefully, the pain of it will not last long.

:(

2:16 AM  
Anonymous LS9AWD said...

Blazing scorpio, bravo.
It took a lot of courage for you to come forth with your feelings, but in the end, it's worth it. Like I said before, the truth will set you free. Don't ever be ashamed of honesty, especially with the ones you love.

If he doesn't come back to you, it wasn't meant to be.

I personally think he will.

9:27 AM  
Anonymous Victoria said...

Oh my! The more I read from Taurus the deeper I fall.

Gotta get me a Taurus, gotta get me a Taurus (who isn't already taken)

Every delicious Taurus male I've ever met is already married (damn Murphy's Law)

1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Everyone! After my HUGE panic the other week...where I thought my "FRIEND" so we say....didnt respond to my "spill the beans" and telling him how I feel, and that I LOVE HIM. Despite my OVER REACTION this is what happened. Well, so we figured out we were playing phone tag for a few days, he said he was fine, and I told him I was fine, and I didnt mention the "TEXT message that told him I loved him." So about 2-3 weeks pass, and we are just going on as usual....(this is a LONG DISTANCE KINDA RELATIONSHIP, remember?) And he travels 24/7 as his job, independent CLEAN, scornful, veggetarian truck driver! LOL. But anyway, he calls me on saturday last week and was like, I am coming to your area tommorow...I was like WHAT! YES! Really? So we plan to meet each other. The day comes. I call him after Church. He said he is making a delivery. So he says he is going to call me when its finished, so he calls me around a few minutes to 5pm. I get up (already dressed, and LOOKING GOOD might I add) and travel to see him.

We meet, OMG...HEAVEN! We hug, sit down, and eat dinner. Then as we leave the restuarant I tell him, guess what? I have something for you (just my nature to NURTURE my MAN, or is he my man?) I have him get a box out of my car, its a "CARE PACKAGE" FULL of things he will need or use on the ROAD. I also (being the scorpio I am) package pictures of myself, a collage of 3 pictures, a single picture of myself in a frame, and I also (GET THIS) burned 4 JAM PACK CD's FULL of love SONGS! The BABY MAKING KIND, so he called it. So, he opens it up like a child at CHRISTMAS, all smiles, grining, laughing, and commenting, "I have never had ANYONE give me a CARE PACKAGE! Is that what this is?" I said yes is! (me blushing the ENTIRE WHILE). So he takes out the CD's plug plays it, while he is going through the card, pictures, and box. He is SO HAPPY! I almost melted with EXTREME pleasure in knowing I had made my well...MAN? HAPPY! HAPPY! HAPPY! He got STUCK on commenting on how beautiful I was. (I am SO not lying here)...and he would look at the pictures, shake his head, then look back and me, then back to the pictures, then back at me, alternating this pattern for about 30 minutes or more. I was SO SHAME FACED! I was like, he thinks that of me? (IN MY HEAD) so he said, MAN, I have GOT to come to see you MORE often! I just GOT to! WOW, I mean you are beautiful! Then he goes on to say someone came to his MYSPACE page and sent him a message saying he "beautiful" I was and who was I. I was like REALLY? Is this man kidding or what? I mean I think I am average but, WOW, this man is DIGGING ME! HIP HIP HURRAY! ( I AM SAYING ALL OF THIS IN MY HEAD). So he is like OMG, these are some of my favorite songs (a mixture of reggae, he is an artist as well, might I add,....and smooth R & B). He is like wow, you have just made my day. He went on and on and one, so we laughed, talked, flirted LIKE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And talked...then he said do you want to lay down a while to get some rest before you get back on the road? This is after many hours of us going back and forth, exchanged flirts, smiles, laughs, etc etc etc.....He was asking me off and on what was I thinking...its like he wants to be inside of my head! GO FIGURE!

(knowing that I am NOT having sex, shut up yall! LOL) I was like ahhhhhhhhh....welll...He said seriously I am not trying to...then he cut it off. I said well, okay. So I laid down on his bed...MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! Talking about well, nevermind. You know us (passionate, arousing of the senses, ROMANTIC scorpios with taurases)..so I laid there while he playing over and over this ONE particular song, and made a call to his brother.

Then when he finished his 10 min call, he lean over and peeped at me, and then got up and perceeded to get on the top of the shelf above the bed to lay down! I am like HELLO? What are you doing? I was so surprised and honored that he respected my feelings about sex. HOWEVER. I told him wait. Before you lay down please I need you to do something for me...he said you do? Like what? Cause I am the bad guy, I am TRYING To be good here....

LOL!

I said come here....he kneeled down to the bed, and leaned towards me and I was like (OMG) I leaned into him and the rest is HISTORY! LOL. We (what the kids call) MADE OUT. By kissing and cuddling, caressing etc etc, without sex. When I took inventory of my life, this was the MOST ROMANTIC TIME OF MY LIFE EVER! TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU! We were there, eskimo kissing, kissing, cuddling, caressing, etc etc etc......(just think, tauras and scorpio...what do you think?).

And he was like what are you thinking, tell me what you are thinking? Of course he had been asking me this about ever 30 mins the ENTIRE while I was there...but he was REALLY wanting to know when we were kissing. He asked how do you feel? I said, absoulutely WONDERFUL! And then I said, well...if I was brave enough to tell you how I felt over text, then I should be brave enough to tell you now right? He said well....how do you know you feel that way and why? Then he said, how long have you feel like that. And I told him. I also told him that I wanted to know how he feels because he is always holding back, and I am always telling him (with MUCH hesitation how I feel) then he said, its a long story...I said it is? Well, does that mean its good or bad. He said, well I dont know. Then I told him...well in that case, I am not sure I want to know. And we just lie there, kissing, caressing...by far the best evening I have EVER had!

So, am I to ASSUME he Loves me too? OR...do I play dumb, and just HOPE he does?

Also I was thinking....is it the NORM these days for a man not to REALLY ASK a girl to be HIS steady girlfriend, or WOMAN? Is it just supposed to be assumed? Because looking from the outside in, we are doing everything a couple would do, conversation, time spent, etc etc etc....MINUS him telling me how he REALLY feels, and minus him telling me, LETS BE A COUPLE.

So what am I, Blazing Scorpio to think?

(Still HIGH).

11:54 AM  
Blogger Empress said...

Really cant wait to see what you think about my TAURAS MAN...

Thanks (Blazing Scorpio, as Empress)

12:05 PM  
Blogger Jeffrey Kishner said...

@empress/blazing scorpio, I'd respond if I could bring myself to read your comment, but it is so darn long! How about a reader's digest version?

4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, Jeff...but its good. LOL. Okay, how about in 300 words or less? I was upset and scared that he didnt feel the same about me, after I was told here, I should let him know I love him....I did. He didnt respond. but he let me know sometime later that he did recieve the message that I loved him. He was happy, excited but didnt let me know how he felt. This pasted sunday, we got to together is was HEAVEN ON EARTH we were vibing "made out, romantically, WITHOUT SEX" best time we ever had! He inquired about what I was thinking and feeling but I didnt tell him, later during the making out I told him that I felt wonderful...I asked him about his feelings, here again he said its a long story, but I said is that good or bad, he said well, I dont know. ANd thats basically it. The LONG response was basically to say he acts as if we are a couple we do everything as a couple but he has yet to tell me his FEELINGS and or ask me to be his girl. I am asking is it like that these days in the dating world? Do I have something to worry about or do you feel he loves me or? In limbo.

Thanks. (sorry) I am a talker.

Empress

9:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh dear sounds like someone is in love big bad love come blow your house down

12:55 AM  
Blogger Jeffrey Kishner said...

@empress, I can't really tell you too much about the dating world. It sounds me to like he's just afraid of taking the step of making it "official." He's probably been hurt before.

If it tastes like butter, it IS butter. Why do you have to call it "butter"?

9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cant find my password! This is Empress,

I just have to say it, I am freaking in LOVE, VERY VERY MUCH SO.

And to be quite honest, I believe with all in me, he loves me too.

Too many signs, and comments by him says it all, right up to the very last conversation we had this afternoon.

And I am very happy.

Empress BKA Blazing Scorpio.

8:15 PM  
Anonymous LS9AWD said...

Well, Empress/Blazing Scorpio, what did I tell you?

Honesty is best.

As you can now see, if you're honest with those you love, it works out in the end, or at the very least, you know where you really stand with that person.

Apparently, your guy is very much into you, as I had suspected.

I'm glad to see you summoned the courage to take the steps you took.
I also applaud the way you did it - that care package was a nice touch (I know my heart melts when women do things like that for me), and like I said on my first post, earning trust with little (non-sexual, non-manipulative) favors like that is absolutely vital.

I wish you best of luck with your man, and I hope the advice I gave helped you out. As for me, I've now got a Scorpio girlfriend and she is wonderful in ways beyond measure. She's an earth-bound angel, and I go crazy just thinking about her. I've been hurt bad in the past, but I think I may very well have fallen in love again.

Anyway, Empress, it looks like now I might be the one asking for relationship advice...LOL...I gotta know how to keep my new scorpion girl happy...

10:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LovelyLibra(Scorpio Rising, yeah go figure!) here and needing some advice! Recently I had the opportunity to spend an intimate weekend with a wonderful Taurus guy that I had been knowing about six months. At first, I must admit I didn't take his advances seriously because he lives in another state and I was a little apprehensive about long distance relationships and he had told me he had just gotten out of a relationship about a year prior to meeting me. But I finally gave in and went to visit him. We realized we had more in common than first thought. The weekend went wonderfully. You know there was a lot of romance and passion. He was a true gentleman. While I was there, we kinda touched on relationships and children in conversation and he asked me if I liked him, and you know Libras, we have to play it cool, and I said yes I liked him but I didn't really specify how much because I wasn't sure how he meant it, so I didn't elaberate. I get back home, and we talk almost everyday for about a week straight. One day, I mentioned us seeing each other again. He seemed cool with it. He asked if I wanted him to come to me or me visit him again. I told him either way. I didn't hear from him again for a few days. For some odd reason, I decided to muster up my courage and tell him how I really felt about him. I can't believe it because I'm a Libra woman that hates rejection so this type of move is unheardof on my part. I was direct but tactful in conversation, trying hard not to sound like a school girl with a crush. I told him how much I liked him and would like to be more than just friends and would like to make an exception of my dislike for long distance relationships. He said that he's glad that I said something to him and that I gave hime something to think about while he was at the gym. I didn't hear from him again until exactly 7 days, down to the minute, from when I made my confession. It was kinda creepy and what makes it worse is that our conversation that day, was in text messaging. He never said anything about my confession then either. I don't know what to do! I've send e-cards, texts, and even called and left a voicemail message letting him know that I'm thinking about him and I haven't heard a word. I'm trying to be patient but I'm not sure if it will pay off. Something keeps telling not to be hasty, but how long is too long to wait? Should I just call and say hey, whats up? Did you make up your mind yet? You know it doesn't take Libras long to make up their minds when it comes to relationships.

11:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LS9AWD I am SO happy for you, yes your advice was darn near perfect if not perfect! Its like we are tasting heaven each and everytime we talk or when we are together...I mean for Jeff's sake, (LOL) I will not go into detail because I tend to get long winded...but its like, I am LOVING the courtship. Its so nice to feel beautiful, loved and appreciated. I cant begin to tell you how he makes me feel. And it gives me GREAT pleasure to do things for him such as the care package! I didnt even tell you what I got him for Christmas! But I'd LOVE 100% to give you advice on how to keep your scorpio woman happy! I am sure you being who you are is more than enough...but I can help prehaps by telling you what works for me. But anytime just let me know..we can help each other? Deal? :) I am glad you are happy!!!!! I wish you NOTHING but the absolute best in your relationship! Gosh, just thinking about my tauras man, sends me right over the top! I am LOVING IT! Hmmmmmmmmm...

Hugs,
Empress Renee

10:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a Virgo woman in love with a married Taurus man. I know he will never leave his wife even though they have marital problems. He even admitted that he may have made the wrong choice. When we first met, we became fast friends and then over a period of 3 years we grew very fond of each other. Last year I realized that I've fallen completely for him. At first, I said to myself "Oh no..",but even then I had to admit it. I even told him I love him and even though he didn't feel the same way, he didn't run away. So we had affairs off and on...he shows me still that he cares about me. He's still shy and quiet at times..but I've learned not to rock the boat so much..The thing is now I have to get over him. I have to. He's never leaving his wife. I tried to see other men, but he's still in my thoughts.. I got to get over him. I pray I can meet another taurus who has those same qualities,but who is very single and available only for me.
How do I get over this one and only lifetime love ? How do I move on?

8:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Virgo woman. I feel that you are very passionate about this man! And where ever your passion is....thats where your own "universe" will lead and draw you. For me...the fact that he will NEVER leave his wife would be enough for me...because I dont care for playing second. If you dont have him FULLY and separate from...then you dont have him. Most often than not...from what I have learned and understand...men need that affirmation, understanding, and appreciation. What you are giving him, he apparently lacks in his marriage...which in turn he is seeking it from you. The fact that you TOLD him you love him...reassures him he can continue to get what he lacks from you.

My suggestion? How MUCH do you WANT TO move on, and find someone who wants you? AND JUST YOU? When you move your focus, direction, and FULL attention to finding someone else...meaning framing your WORLD...the universe then shapes, forms, & delivers to you what you want & desire..therefore almost effortless you will attract love. And not his love.

MY SUGGESTION: IF AND ONLY IF YOU WANT TO MOVE ON...is this.

First? Do you write? Or can you draw basically?

1. Write what you want in a man.
2. So that you can have a VARIETY of men to choose from...and then begin to date again HEALTHY...get pictures of men in a group...OR draw pictures of men in a group...prehaps get a magazine with a soccer team or football team or a magazine or clip from a sales add...in the area where the advertise men things. That may sound STUPID, however you are telling your universe what you want. And as a result it will come.

3. BE GENUINLEY HAPPY. What part of you make you SETTLE for being second? Stop focusing on negative things..LOVE YOURSELF. Enjoy being with yourself. The more love you have for yourself, it will some over take you, and that love with some to flow out of you in POSITIVE ENGERY that will not only put a DEMAND on your universe to deliver what you desire...you will see things start to turn around!

4. Be appreciative for the HEALTHLY relationships you do have. If you dont have this...then everyday for 30 days, write down 1 thing positive about someone in your life. Like a mom, dad, child, sister, brother, grandparents. Find the good, dont focus on the bad. The MORE energy and focus you have on the bad, the more the UNIVERSE shapes to deliver what you are focusing on.

5. Get pictures of couples and post them on a "VISION BOARD" happy couples, couples holding hands, kissing, couples showing genuine love & intimacy towards each other. Post this at your desk, ANYWHERE when you can sit, focus & stare at everyday.

6. Whatever POSITIVE vibe, energy, & focus you dwell on, your universe HAS GOT TO shape and deliver.

If you think this is stupid, then dont do it. If you are ready for a change, and want to move on. Give it a try....the more consistant, & persistant you are with it. The more is going to MANIFEST and become real.

Once you start doing this and other positive things...geared towards your desires for a mate/soulmate...(or anything thing you want for this matter)...it will happen. And trust me, you will come back to this board, and tell of your successes! I promise you!

Empress Renee bka Blazing Scorpio

6:16 AM  
Blogger Cherrycap said...

All of the above speaks to me so much...I hope somebody can help with my own situation as it's driving me insane & making me so sad in the process... I'm a Capricorn (Moon in Sag, Venus in Scorpio) who's been in a relationship with a Gemini for three years. I've looked through the Cap/Gemini pages, and it's all so so true...things were so great & fun at first, but for at least the last year I have totally felt like the parent while he's the big kid. I do EVERYTHING at home while he's always heading out or involved in some new short-lived project or whatever... I still love & care about him very much but am not in love with him anymore & our sex life stopped last summer. Then I began a new job two months ago & fell head over heels in love with a Taurus colleague at first sight. It completely knocked me off my feet & he felt the same. We were both new to the job, so decided to go for a drink as 'newbies' onour own together & as we were also intrigued by the strength of sudden feelings we had for each other. All I can say is, everything felt so right. We both agreed that it felt as if we'd known each other forever & the electricity was incredible. He emailed me the next day saying he'd fallen for me very quickly & it had never happened to him before, but because of our respective situations (he's also in a relationship with someone he lives with which has unofficially ended but no-one's done anything about it) we should take time out to sort our issues out at home before seeing where we both stand in a few months time. I agreed, as it seemed like the obvious & sensible thing to do...but I'm now driving myself insane by wondering..is it really? He's all I can think about...we've broken our 'rule' a handful of times since then & met for coffee/drinks, but each time it ends with me wanting to throw caution to the wind & just spend time with him to see if we're as fantastic as we think we are (thinking long-term) and him as Mr Hugely Stubborn Taurus saying his feelings haven't changed for me but we can have our fun in future, once we've sorted our current situations out & can be together. I still see him at work every day & I know he's probably right, but I'm so scared...what if I tie things up with my own current relationship only to find my Taurus man isn't ready? Maybe the answer to happiness lies in trying to sort out the issues with my Gemini & we should just be working harder at 'us'? I can't deny that the feelings between myself & Mr Taurus are real because we both know that they are. And he's probably not going to budge until he's absolutely ready & sure about me. But it might be six months/a year or maybe even more before we're both in a position to get together properly. And I'm so scared that I've finally found true love & am about to lose it in the meantime. What do people think?

9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a few things to say...of course, normally my few things end up being LONG!

To HELP answer your question...

1. Our thoughts & what we desire, focus, and meditate on will manifest themselves. The universe responds to our thoughts. Thus the taraus man now in your life.

2. YOU CAN NOT CHANGE ANYONE BUT YOURSELF. I believe your current situation my change if you start with SELF FIRST...then trying the "what I appreciate most about him is" everyday for 30 days.

3. Why do we have a 6th sense? Why second guess what our minds have created for us?

4. STOP! THINK! & LISTEN. Why are you telling yourself consciously or unconsciously that you aren't WORTHY to be happy?

5. WHY TURN RED LIGHTS into GREEN to FIT what we kinda sorta think is right?

6. YOU DESERVE to be HAPPY! YOU deserve LOVE, and its your RIGHT to have it. Demand the universe to give it up to you!

7. Then when the opportunity opens. Carpe Diem.

Your choice, your life, your wishes. The universe will respond. Turn negative into POSITIVE vibes...

Empress Renee

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello again this is the virgo woman in love with the married Taurus. Thank you Blazing for your suggestion and I will definately try it... Yesterday I saw him and I was going to walk away from him and he stopped me just to talk. He seemed happy to see me as we hardly saw each other anymore. As far as our affairs together our intimacy was limited ( alot of hugs, kisses, some touching but no sex). When he finished speaking, I would start to walk away and then he comes over and gives me a hug and a kiss on the cheek (we were in public). I proceeded to walk away and then he puts his stuff away comes and touches me on the shoulder and smiles at me. At this point I become weak at the knees but I didn't show it. He stood there and when I saw him again later on the afternoon, he'd look at me and smile while I sat on the steps on that warm afternoon. I was with a female friend at the time. I knew that if I was alone, he would have sat down right next to me as he had done other times before.When I told him I loved him, I felt that I wanted to, to let him know what I was feeling. He has a child with her and before she became pregnant he contemplated on leaving her because they were still having problems(which he told me confidentely 2 years before). He said he wouldn't leave because of his child. He said if things were different we would have been together. In the back of my mind, I secretly thought to myself,would he have cheated on me eventually?

Oh I will definately try your suggestion, blazing scorpio. It's gonna be really hard to get over this guy, but I need to do it for me.. btw, your suggestion is not stupid.
Thanks again

7:56 PM  
Blogger Tessa said...

I had a couple of fights with my Taurus boyfriend..
And I got so angry because I found pictures of him with his ex, even though I look back now, and I did know that they are friends.
I was ust so jealous.. Pluys, he is overseas.. We 've always done everything together, but a death in his family has brought him back home, and while i was there with him at first, I have since had to return here for work..
I got so mad that i said we should break up.
He didnt want to, but told me the nxt day he was so hurt, he loves me less, and maybe we shold take that break.
he's got a lot on his plate no.. loking after his paretns, as well as studying for an avaiation course..

How do I win him back?

We've been in contact. he's said that a loittle part of him still loves me and cares for me, and the other day, when i told him i miss him, he said he missed me too.


I just regret evth that I said.. plus, my stupid, rashness-I'd actually said break up once beofre. although I did not mean it.. I was just upset..


please help me.

6:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as a taurus female

if a guy i like backs off, i dont think of them as wanting to be chased ( that could be their intention) but i automatically will stop trying to talk to them coz it makes me think they arent interested and im not gonna chase a guy and get rejected

:)

so to answer your question. we will still want you but not want you more we assume that u are not interested in us

10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i also had a stint with a Taurus man. we worked in an office together and i guess in some way i caught his eye, and we began to talk to each other. i made the first move after a week or so and i gave him my phone number and exchanged email addresses.we went on a date after a month or so and we had a great time but then the next day he tells me he is still in love with his ex-girlfriend. Did he like me in the first place or did he just use me to try and get over her. also he stayed over my place and it seems he had a good time but when i told him i couldn't make it to his place because of work he completely stopped contacting me. Finally i asked him if he was avoiding me and he said no (i didn't believe him and accused him of dating someone else) and he cut me off completely. I apologized for my crazy behavior but no response. is this forgivable to a Taurus man? I'm so hurt by him and it hurts that he doesn't understand. Any word of advice? from Jeffery or lw9.

10:42 PM  

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