Does a Pisces man ever end a relationship?
This query seems to imply that Pisces men are passive ... so passive that they wait for their partner to end the relationship. Putting aside the fact that the Pisces man has nine other planets in his chart making however many angles to each other, it is true that Pisces is not exactly Mr. Action. He is more likely to dream about alternate realities in his relationship -- or about his dream man or woman -- than to be pro-active about making a change.Part of the problem -- if we may call it that -- is Pisces' ability to go with the flow, to accept his circumstances. Pisces transcends, after all. And if reality gets too difficult -- if it imposes its hard edges into his soft-focused life -- he may deal with conflict by drinking or daydreaming or escaping one way or another.
Pisces may also martyr himself, choosing to stay unhappy and perceive himself as the poor victim of circumstance over shaking the boat and putting an end to his unhappiness in the relationship.
But, my dear querent, why are you waiting for him to end it?
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posted by Jeffrey Kishner at 11/06/2006
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I'm a capricorn woman with a virgo rising and my man is a pisces with a capricorn rising. We've been together for about 3 1/2 years. Last weekend he came over as usual but I could tell he was being distant. He left a day earlier than usual and he did the same the previous weekend.
He then writes me an email on Monday telling me he needs space, I'm not a horrible girlfriend, but he needs to figure things out. Yet he wants to see me weekly and talk regularly. I'm just wondering why he claims it's not me and just his need for space and to even work on his music when I'm the one who's suffering the most.
He also said originally it was just a break but then today during a heated IM conversation he tells me that I should act like we already broke up. I thought the break we are on was to see whether or not we were going to break up.
I'm so hurt and confused. I'm wondering if this is some sort of backlash from the exclipses. Whether our relationship as a couple is really over or just on hiatus?
Tee, I've known Pisces men like you describe --matter of fact, my brother is one.
But, I too was seriously involved about 15 yrs ago, with a handsome Pisces that started to want space-onece he knew I was more available to him for real.
Yet,re: taking his space, he did not tell me he actually wanted it even.
He began taking it.
He has a lot of issues with true intimacy.
However--this behavior of your Pisces,is not necessarily indication that he doesn't care any more--I have the sense he wants you to treat him as though you don't "need" him,and not to ask very much about whether he is going to return or not.
However----that imo, does not mean you have to comply.
I agree with Jeff here honey.
You have every right to make your own decision.
For instance you might set a deadline largely for your own self but let him know what it is, though not in a blaming way.
Or, if this is truly hurting you too much--definitely break this off, and ask him to figure things out,for himself.
If something changes for sure he may call you.
In my experience anyway,when relationships are meaningful they do not simply end the day we walk off.You know?(nor the next week either)
You might not be available,if he feels better about your relationship later on, or you might *be*--but there's no guarantee.
I don't mean you should be vengeful--just honest.
Btw, I did break up with my Pisces--who was forever breaking up with me, because I pushed for answers, communication, and committment.
I could have stayed with him if I wanted to go along with his non-committed committment.
I didn't.:-)
Good luck--I mean that.
i'm in love with a 16th february born born boy who's 4 and a half years my junnior. my b'day is on the 21st of august. he seems to love me a lot but keeps denying it at times. will this relationship work?
Hi! I am a Libra woman in love by a Virgo man. We are good friends but a few months ago we had a period of "intensive" flirting...He always gave me lots of compliments, when we go out with friends he mind to be always next to me, etc, but since I do a move, like inviting him for doing something just we, he always have an excuse to refuse. So I decided to start treating him as normal friend to protect myself and he came to tell me that it hurts him. I'm totally confused!!! Is he playing with me or maybe just scared about his own feelings?
"I'm totally confused!!! Is he playing with me or maybe just scared about his own feelings?"
Either way, does it matter? Bc if he's playing with you, that sucks and shows he's thoughtless (whether he hurts you deliberately or not, the real point is: he's hurting you and can't seem to stop.) And if he's scared of his feelings, well, isn't he a big boy by now? He should be able to handle his own feelings on his own and not take it out on you. That's for him and his therapist to sort out and until he does that, then he's really not available for a relationship with your or with anyone, is he? My 2 cents.
Im a capricorn girl and i was dating a pisces man for 2 and a half years.. it was all good at the start.. but his constant day dreaming and laid back ( a little boring)going no-where in life approach soon bugged me.. and often used the "victim" in life excuse one to many times.. it is known that capricorns love to dominate which yes is partly true however I LIKE A MAN to dominate too.. i found that my personality was to strong for his and i often ended up feeling like the bad guy 99.5% of the time i really did not see this as a match.. when you fight with a pisces man they will always come across as the victim and they do it with such innocence which fires up that feisty streak in us capricrons which in consequence leaves us feeling hurt and bothered.. you cant stay angry at them though. Pisces are like big squishy teddy bears.. could be a good thing for some.. not for others..
What's up with Pisces men floating away from relationships by saying "I need space?" This is a very popular exit strategy for them. I know of five male Pisceans who have "ended" a relationship like this, leaving the woman to deal with a mess of confusion and unanswered questions. Another Pisces male favorite, "It's not you. It's me." I don't understand why they work so hard to get you, create a bond with you, and then they can't handle the relationship that they worked so hard to create.
I know a Pisces man with 5 kids by 4 different women and all of them couldn't even tell you why or how their relationship ended. But they all still have very strong feelings for him and love him to this day. Oh the spell Pisces can put the world under. :)
And great advice, Eme Kah! Especially the part about leaving his issues to him and his therapist to sort out. lol I'm gonna start following that advice in my own whatever-you-wanna-call-it's, no matter the zodiac sign.
I'm a Pisces guy in a romantic non-sexual relationship with another Pisces guy and we have been together for three years now.
While it's true that Pisces need our alone time sometimes, it's also true that we love deeply. Personally I don't have a problem with intimacy. As a matter of fact, I craved for it.
In my relationships with an Aries and a Gemini, it is they are not willing to share intimacy with me.
My Pisces guy, with his Scorpio Moon and Aries Venus, is an intensely intimate guy who shows his affection quite openly.
Unfortunately, his Scorpio moon bites me sometimes and my Gemini moon's needs for communication is not always fulfilled.
However his Aries venus always makes up for it by giving me tonnes of attention when we're together and his Pisces sensitivity does shine through.
Interesting to read how the signs work within homosexual relationships.
Hi Jara Blah Blah
(you should totally loose the aka...Jara Blah Blah is far more sexy)
Anonymous Pisces in love with another Pisces here. Actually, what I see so far, the signs do not seem to work differently in homosexual relationships.
For example, the Gemini in me flirts - even though my Pisces guy is a godsend - I cannot leave my Aries sun guy or stop me from getting into another relationship with a Gemini sun.
My Gemini sun relationship gives me the communications I crave but he plays the disappearing game. My Aries sun guy tugs at my heart with his sadness and my Pisces desire to protect and nurture just won't let me leave him.
So I think, at least in my opinion, the signs do not seem to work differently. I would love however to hear or be pointed towards any directions which could educate me more on this subject.
I am a cancerian who is very confused at the moment. I was starting to become involved with a pisces male and things were going fine, quite passionate texts and emails and major flirting in work. We had kissed a few times and it was clear that we were heading for something sexual.One night in work things got quite passionate and he got v excited v quickly shall we say ( we didnt have sex or anything like that it was just as a result of me kissing him).
Perhaps that frightened him because suddenly he backed off saying he wasnt giving me the brush off he was just v confused. I wondered if there was an element of embarrassment about the incident even though i took it as a compliment that i turned him on so much.
But still he was v vague with me just saying he was confused i asked what i should do he said just be yourself but i tried to explain that being myself with him involved the usual flirty and touchy feely stuff we were used to and i wanst sure if that would make him feel uncomfortable.
Im quite impatient and told him we needed to chat and as soon as i said that he said he thought we should leave things completely.
Im thinking now did i push him into saying that? or was that going to happen anyway just maybe he was hoping id just get bored waiting n take a hint to save him from doing the dirty work.
Any advice?
Also i know he still likes me else he wouldnt have commented that he couldnt believe what i do to him physically. I want to win back his interest and affections but wouldlike advice as to the best way to be with a pisces that gets him keen without scaring him off again.
Thanks.
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I am an aquarius gal who became involved with a pisces man, it all started in email and I didn't really see it coming. I work with him so it became uncomfortable. I let him know and now he has shut me out. The thing is, I miss him. Part of me thinks let it be, but the connection is so strong and its pulling on my heart strings. He knows this. I miss him terribly. If a Pisces guy shuts you off is it for good?
Hi aquarius girl you ask a very good question as im in the same position presently being shut out by a piscean man i work with. if its work related its fine but anything else is very strained at the moment.
See my previous post the one before yours!
I'm a Piscean male who had a 5 year relationship with an Aquarian... and lived with her for 3... we had our fair share of wintery days...
although Pisces can penetrate Aquarian detachment... it takes its toll...
Aquarius will make a frigid comment based on logic... Pisces will absorb the blow routinely... until he decides to reciprocate...
Pisces will freeze over... he'll become cold... those same 'strings' that he pulled to warm your heart... he will jerk until your surpressed emotions flood to the surface uncontrollably...
I was aptly named, Mr. Mean by her...
...this is a primary example of why Piscean's are accused of emotional blackmail, manipulation, and vindictiveness
neither party intends this frosty behavior... it is merely who each is...
at the core, Aquarius and Pisces are alike...
...one fundamental difference, friendship to Pisces is an extension of family ...the Water Bearer 'liberally' uses the term, 'friend'...
Pisces, in your cases, mistook your exuberance for genuine ardor...
Pisces commits emotionally, Aquarius does mentally...
it requires mutual awareness...
Most likely way for such a relationship to sustain itself... is if you are aspected in each other's signs... see Paul Newman...
...I do not profess to be an astrologist, psychologist, or healer ...my comments will be both subjective, and relative ...but, I feel the need to write to Capricorn
...if I remember correctly, astrology suggests that your 'best match' is when your partner's Sun sign is opposite to your Rising sign
...I sort of wish that I had crossed paths with tee2381... 'cause I'm Cancer Rising
your fish had his Rising sign in your Sun sign... it likely means that he felt comfortable with you... but, astrology would point to this caveat... he would not grow as a person if he continued to share time with you...
Pisces needs time to purge... it really is the 'crapper' of the zodiac...
that 'heated IM conversation' was the mood you caught him in... you just caught him with his pants down, in his favorite place... the toilet...
Prosepine...
for some reason, I tend to experience the converse...
I push for answers, communication, and security... basically, ask why?...
...and suddenly, I'm climbing Burj Dubai
...I must be the 'Radical Pisces'
Anonymous Capricorn...
This is comical...
Pisces knows the Sea-goat... it is the only earth sign which has an inkling of the water signs... you should tuck away that serpent's tail...
I'm fully cogniscent that Capricorn will gladly assume my burdens... but, there is a net...
are you enjoying the metaphors? ;-)
Pisces is not afraid of his feelings... Pisces lives in that realm... Pisces fears that he will overwhelm you with the depths of his emotions... he's likely imbibed your feelings, too... and doesn't want to be your mirror...
maybe you should pick up a book, and read about who has the power... whether it is the Submissive or the Dominatrix...
for blahblah...
"I need space?"... I think you're confusing me with Aquarius...
last time I looked, my constellation was about ropes, and not losing my other half...
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Hi i did a post a month or so back im the cancerian who had been involved with a pisces at work and then he did the cooling off thing with me and just wanted to be friends.
thing is its now 6 weeks later and he has just returned from a holiday, at first it was a bit tense i still felt awkward because i still really like him and given when he cooled things it wasnt because we had fell out or didnt get on it was following quite a passionate encounter that i think perhaps scared him i still think theres a chance he may like me too.
What i need to know is do pisces men flirt just for the sake of it? ive never known him to be flirty in general with other women i work with.
I was feeling awkward and sent him an email not a big heavy im still into you one just a nice one explaining that alot of stuff had been left unsaid n that it hadnt been easy for me given he made the decision to cool things but that i respected that decision but that i was justconfused as 2 how i was meant to be with him coz being myself involves being flirty but didnt know if that was ok or not. and i noticed fri he was paying me more attention and it seemed to be going back 2 how it was when we first started flirting. Just silly things like distracting me while on the phone by tickling me, nudging me, pulling my hair etc then later on we were having a laugh and i smacked him on bum with my platic bowl ( i was careful 2 not use hand contact) then as i was walking away he smacked my bum.
then i got back to my desk he had emailed me and there was a flirty undertone to it.
Point im making is given he wanted the space do i assume he now perhaps realises he does miss the fun we had? or is this how all pisces are when they are just being 'Friendly" so to speak.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated he certainly doesnt seem to act like this with anyone else that im aware of
@Chip, Thanks for all your Pisces comments!
Cancer girl...
the general population forgets... the Sun sign is who you are at the core...
if I lend credence to astrology, the whole of the person is made up of other planetary, and sign influences...
Pisceans are a challenge, and innervate me, too...
I can only speak from my perspective...
Pisces can 'flirt for the sake of it'...
if I have a 'woman', I flirt to be playful... and NOT to line up the next score...
if I'm single, I flirt to gauge your interest...
I do not know the chemistry you share with this fellow...
Cancer rules emotion... it can be daunting for him... especially, if he's caught wind that you are serious...
it's possible that he walked away to identify whether 'what he's feeling' is a reflection of your desire, or his, or both...
if you're genuinely interested in him, let him know... maybe if you come out of your shell, he'll respond...
...be careful though, Cancer and Pisces can be emotionally charged ...you'll each know which buttons to push
Hi Chip,
cancerian girl again lol
thanks for your swift response, its very difficult to guage at present if he is just playing or if this pisces man is showing ore of a keen interest to perhaps rekindle something.
im scared of confronting him incase im seen to be coming on too heavy and scare him off.
What's the best way to appeal to a pisces, get their interest and keep it without looking super keen and sending them running for the hills?
It seems he is ok when the flirting is instigated by him and on his terms so should i just follow his lead or is there anything i can do to subtly nudge him in the right direction?
Thanks
...it's a fallacy that Pisces runs scared
...ask yourself are you afraid of being rejected by this guy ...or worse, waiting for him
...Cancer girl ...be yourself ...if subtly is your style ...and he's in tune with you ...he'll respond
I don't think you'd go wrong either way...
in the end, follow your instincts...
...there is no 'book' on how to 'get' someone
i'm a piscean male, and there have been times i've ended relationships, and other times, when i've wanted out, created situations to have the woman break up with me. it was mostly dependent upon whether i wanted to stay friends with her or not. the latter being the continued friendship route.
Anonymous Pisces man --you said you've ended some relationships and rather "snuck out" of some relationships by allowing the woman to break up wiht you.
Can you say more about this?
The only Pisces I really care for anymore is my brother, but even that is difficult.
I know there are high minded Pisces, but so many of the males of the sign (and some women) drift away and/or play games.
Why?
Even if it's *not* running scared like Chip was saying--then what is it?
My brother has been married twice and lived with another and has a couple of 'someones' now.
The ones he was serious with he never let go even when he was really finished with her("just in case").
Though he got real frustrated when any of them bothered him.
Even a Pisces woman I was once close with did kinda the same thng--when I wanted to spend time with her she wouldn't.
When she wanted to spend time with me, she was truly annoyed when I wanted some of the time to be also for myself.
Knowing my brother, I do know when we were kids he was very sensitive.
But all he seems to know now
is false emotions, maudlin alcoholic stuff--not much is real.
It's depressing.
Hi Cancer girl again...i agree with you Karen.
I am struggling to understand where my picses man is coming from. One minute he wanted space then he was very flirty with me then i go into work last week wondering if things will be more positive only to feel like i'd be shot down in flames because his barrier had gone up again and you wouldn't have thought it was the same man who was looking for any excuse to come and chat to me the previous friday.
Do pisceans have a tendancy to want what they cant have? then not want it when they think they can have it?
i am very confused and trying to just play it cool with him but its very hard to do as he blows so hot and cold.
...I think I'm going to have to write a 'novella' on what it means to be Piscean
...most people when they look at a glass of water expect an answer to the age old question, 'is it half full or half empty'?
...I may retort is both ...but, in reality I see an element that can give life or bring death ...without it, you can't survive ...with too much of it, you are liable to drown (similar analogies can be made of other astrological elements, but science agrees that every organism needs water, and it is ruled by my kind)
...you've just experienced a typical comment from a Piscean ...and I guess, your head is swimming, now :-)
...the sign provokes thought, and emotion ...so, be prepared, Karen and 'Cancer Girl'
**To Pisces who 'allows the woman to break up with him'**
...if I had to be candid, this fellow had it done to him ...he's assumed this techique ...Pisces generally does not want to 'directly or consciously' hurt anyone, and from this perspective, you can attempt to advocate his approach ...but, this type of behavior is an emotional drain ...this creates a bad situation that will likely draw on
...Pisces has not learned his lesson here ...sometimes it is better to be Arien than Libran
**Pisces drifts away and/or play games, Why?**
To understand Pisces, you should really read Hamlet...
"All the world's a stage."
Hamlet is melanchonic, and suspicious of everyone. His despair, his feigning madness comes from difficulties in love (the betrayal of his mother's marriage to his uncle, and Ophelia’s rejection of him). He is haunted by a ghost (his past). And has a crutch in Horatio.
It's the play within the play. The play was not a game of his derivision. By nature, the tools endowed to him are not best suited for this world; otherwise, Hamlet would have finished the job, and killed Laertes.
(...please save the comment about how Pisces makes excuses, or explains nothing with allegory, and how I should be using prose)
"Is life worth living? It depends on the liver!".
Hamlet never preaches that life is all about fulfilment and happiness.
....if your Piscean is unable to identify 'what' or 'why' he is having complications in love, you're going to get an enigmatic character
...if you've hurt him, he may take 'time out' to regenerate his scales, or catch a different wave
Pisces requires soothing when he's in this state... the alternate, causes an unpredictable reflex... one that likely won't be to your taste...
**Even if it's *not* running scared like Chip was saying--then what is it?**
Self-preservation.
Pisces is not endowed with horns it can lock, pincers with which it can clamp, claws to scratch with, or a sepent's tail...
...you may get the sharp teeth of a shark ...but, it is contrary to their life objective, who they want to be, and who they are meant to be
**Do pisceans have a tendancy to want what they cant have? then not want it when they think they can have it?**
...these questions are retorical ...I would say this is a human condition that members of recent generations all lean towards ...most who fall under an earth sign can exclude themselves from this observation if they wish.
I think all you women need to re-read my posts... the answers are all there
Pisces will give you everything you want... and that which you cannot even dream... but, don't 'ask' him to conform to your will, he'll conform if it's best for the relationship without prompting... surrender to him on occasion... define what you want from him, but don't define him... water absorbs pollutants, it needs time to filter them...
Pisces is solitary for a reason... I know I wear down my partners... 'if I had a nickel' ...for every woman who had encouraged me to open up, and then, justified my emotional lamentations with a logical arguement ...I'd have a bag of coins that I could drop on my head
About me...
modern astrologists would say, I have loose orb (9 dgrees) to Sun square Saturn (Pisces/Gemini) which is 1 to 2 degress from a Grand Cross in all the mutable signs... (if I were exacting, my chart contains 2 T-squares in mutable signs, 1 T-square with my Ascendant the apex, a Kite when I include my North Node in Aquarius)...
traditional astrologists would say, I have planets in detriment...
A psychologist would likely classify me as a codependent...
I have been looking for elucidation both in the physical and spiritual plain for a long time... which makes me a rare Piscean...
So, what makes YOU think YOU can even approximate Pisces? I've been looking to give it form for 30+ years, and the 'stars' have endowed me with all I need... and I have yet to be successful...
**astrology, psychology are hobbies... would you believe my profession is IT?
I cannot wait for the blank look some of you will have after reading my post...
BTW, Cancer girl you should communicate what you are writing here to the Piscean fellow you're interested in... if you get hurt, so be it... move on... at least, you've satisfied your need to know...
Thanks chip ill take time to absorb your post although hamelt will always be a bit lost on me. I appreciate your comments thougha nd the time spent to make them.
cancer girl
I want to thank you, Chip, for your insights. I'm bemused by how much you remind me of the Pisces in my life (Saturn opposes his Sun, but he has a Moon/Ascendant conjunction in Gemini). I think it's the melodrama (the play withing the play?) underlying the dispensing of wisdom and the penchant for being wise and yet "ultimately un-understandable." In him, I find it both endearing and frustrating.
At any rate, you've offered much food for thought. As certain Pisces seem wont to do. :)
Chip, i am a gemini female and am dealing with the not so easy to understand pisces male. Everything was candy land for a month and then a volcano exploded. He told me that he just needs space and time to be by himself to figure things out....but on the other hand, he cant even tell me how he feels...he doesnt even understand himself....Give me a run down on what you think he is thinking and if in his mind the relationship is over or he is in his little "cave" and will call when he is ready to talk? And most of all, if he does decide to call one day, whats the best stragedy in handling this not so easy to figure out pisces male in regards to making him realize what he had and to make him think twice about every putting me through this hell hole agian???
Gemini girl... Pisces is a difficult match...
Two of my closest friends are Gemini...
you are likely witty, unpredictable, lively, and appreciate most forms
of communication... it's primarily why I would gravitate towards you...
you can't figure out Pisces with your 'head'... if you try to pin yours
down with your charm... best of luck...
If you're like my friends, you can talk about what you feel, and once
you've talked about it... it's dealt with and then, there is no need for
you to revist those feelings...
for Pisces, at least me, I'm constantly dealing with those feelings...
and they sort of get locked away...
if there is a perceived transgression... I may forgive you... but,
forgetting... is totally another matter... those feelings constantly
lurk...
now, you say there was an eruption... I'm not certain what transpired
between the two of you... if he says he 'needs space', it could be a
typical response... 'cause we find our answers through meditation...
but, he could be feeding you a line... I cannot hazard a guess to which
it is...
you need to ask yourself... do you have a fascination with this guy
'cause he constantly brings a new zeal to you?...
Pisces is about depth... Gemini is about imbibing as much as they can,
and assimilating data as quickly as they can...
he won't let you into his little "cave" unless you make him feel safe...
"will he call when he is ready to talk?" - depends how much he cares for
you
"stragedy?" - don't plan anything for this guy... if he returns, it will
be your spontaneity that he seeks
"figure out?" - skip it... you are trying to objectify something
subjective...
This will be of little consolation, but he knows what he had in you...
"making him think twice" - regardless of sign, you should never try to
leverage anyone in a relationship... it'll backfire...
as far as "putting you through a hell hole" - I've had long term
successes and failures... whether it's good or bad... it's on both
people... you have to work on it, together... one cannot compensate for
the other... it breeds resentment...
BTW, a good Pisces match for you may be the author of this site,
Jeffrey... astrologically, speaking he would gain a lot from a Gemini...
P.S., I'm not a counsellor... I'm not affiliated with anyone here... I'm
just dangerous with astrology... I have taught myself much out of
personal interest... in the end, every woman has to decide what she
wants... and she should be true to her self...
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It really is fascinating to hear/read from a Pisces that doesn't mind opening up.
I agree with what you wrote to Gemini girl about Pisces. Air signs (especially Gemini) will never be able to understand a water sign, ESPECIALLY a Pisces (the hardest of the water signs to figure out!). Pisces doesn't feel better after just talking about feelings.
Gemini girl, try taking him to a park with a lake and lying down on the grass with him on a nice, soft blanket (or whatever gets him to his "happy place"). After some silent staring at the sky together, you may hear what's on his mind and in his heart. Best techniques with a Pisces is to be subtle and gentle. If you don't have the patience to do this, then the fishies will constantly frustrate you.
I know how to get a Pisces to his "happy place" ;)
LOL do tell Jeffrey!!!!
There are probably plenty of readers out there waiting with baited breath to take your Pisces Happy Place Tour.
Hi,
I have beeninvolved with a pisces man and I myself am a pisces too! he is 6 yrs my elder and i am finding it very hard for him to "talk " about his felings... i sense how he feel;s and i can see it in his eyes but at times he keeps pulling awya from me like im going to pass judgement or something? its rather confusin at times.. its like he wants a relationship and we technically have one but without the lable, its weird i try to break it off he comes at me harder! so confusing~!
"But, my dear querent, why are you waiting for him to end it?"
Sag is waiting for Pickled Pike to call it quits because at this point she could care less
(only Aquarius could care less than a Sag, and at least Sagi is cheerful about it)
hi there ..
im a libra girl (scorpio in moon and venus) , and i always belived that pisces are worse to be MEN !!
that's why i used to shyt the door infront of every sigle pisces man i ever meet !
until that one day .. a pisces man claimed that he must know me better coz im good , nice, perfect ......blah blah lah ...etc!
but the bad news is what i had to deal with later , that he used to piss me off all the time talking about that libra girl - (who looks like me as he did claim !)- he was in love with her but he did not do anything about it when another guy proposed to her , so she HAD to say "yes!"
so , that freek pisces man kept weeping and gave me a lot of gift to BUY my love ! when i knew he doesnt really love ME !
one fine day ... he didn't call !
i waited... but he didn't !
i thought he died - i hoped- so I called him .. he tells me that he's busy ..
so , i didn't call him again coz im so sure that he is still busy.. and he will be busy FOREVER !
:)
THAT'S HOW PISCES BREAK UP :
- LIE , - GET DISTANCE , - RUN A WAY !
hey "joakris"
i was realy intrested in your story !
you said ".. its like he wants a relationship and we technically have one but without the lable, its weird i try to break it off he comes at me harder! so confusing~!"
but the diffrence here with me is that im a Libra girl living the EXACTLY SAME SITUATION with a Capricorn man..
i did break up with him ,and i get the same reaction of your Pisces man !
i kept asking my friends ...over and over again .. "what do you think about it ?" , "isn't so weird?"
i think he likes me , and all of our friends told that my Capeicorn man is shy to talk about his feeling to me in direct!
but im so confused !
i dont want to love an other jerk!
i think he should tell me what he feels right to my face !
HOW CAN I REACH THAT ?
WHAT DO YOU THINK ?
im a libra ( moon in scorpio , Aquarius rising , venus in scorpio )
and he is a Capricorn ( moon in Aquarius , Aquarius rising , venus in Scorpio )
..........
PLEASE Jeffrey Kishner .. TELL ME WHAT DO YOU THINK ?
@libra_chic, both Capricorn and Scorpio are cautious signs, and Aquarius is emotionally detached, so of course he's not going to feel comfortable making himself vulnerable to you by talking about his feelings. It's your Libra Sun that wants him to tell you his feelings to your face. You may just have to be patient and live with ambiguity.
thank you Jeffrey Kishner so much for replying !
im still so confused .. coz i all ready know that it's hard to expect him to talk about his feelings easily!
you know , im cautious too my self and i can understand him..
but what do you mean by saying : "You may just have to be patient and live with ambiguity."
do you mean that there is no way he's telling me any thing - ANYTHING- about his feelings?
do you mean that his kind of men will never be involve with any woman emotionally?
well i think there must be something wrong !
coz there must be a solution to that situation
i know many girls around the world are facing the same problem!
WHAT TO DO ?
again ..
coz once i lived the same situation with a Scorpio guy (moon in virgo , venus in scorpio , Capricorn Rising)
i was totally in love with that cautious man ... and i understood his need to hide his feelings ...
FOR 3 YEARS..
but i couldn't stand any more , and i left him forever with my heart broken !
i had to !
i don't want to live the same misery with my lovely Capricorn man !
we had a year together now !
we are getting really close and good with each other , but i still don't know his real feeling to me !
THERE MUST BE A WAY!
THERE MUST BE A TRICK !
don't you think that Jeffrey Kishner ?
you gotta help a lot of girls here ! :)
and an other question please ,
what do you think about the relation ship between me and my Capricorn guy ?
i know they say Caps and libras don't get a long ...
but we have special signs in venus here !
about me i have
sun in libra
moon in scorpio
murcury in virgo
venus in scorpio
mars in Sag
Jupitter in Capricorn
and he has
Sun in Capricorn
moon in Aquarius
murcury in capricorn
venus in scorpio
mars and Jupitter in pisces
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ?????????
just cuz a guy's not talking, doesn't mean he doesn't care.
First of all, don't push. The more you try to interact with him at this point, the more he will pull away. Men get to a point with every relationship where they have to decide if they're staying or going; don't force him to choose to go. Just because he's not showing his pain doesn't mean he isn't in pain. I've been married to a pisces for 22 years and they need to be left alone to deal with their feelings. (Speaking as a cancer, I understand that.)
Pisces men.. hmm what to do with them, i am an aries girl who was unaware of the pisces dark traits of being selfish and hurtful. i dated a pisces man two years ago and fell deeply in love with him and then he left me with a broken heart that darn pisces man, now i have this shield to protect me and recently i have been involved with another pisces man and i have him where i want him, i like him and i am very close to him but dont love him he tells me how madly in love with me he is and when i get into a strut or argument with him he chases after me. now its time for revenge no way on earth am i letting another pisces man break my heart oh how he uses his charm to melt my heart but its kind of hard melting a heart made of pure solid ice he can use as much heat as he likes the rotten fish i wont let him break my heart. oh and how common of a pisces man to be married. both of them were and that to a so called forced marriage haha lame or what
You can't lump all Pisces men into the same category just because they share a Sun sign. Let your heart melt! (Unless he's married.)
I agree, let your heart melt unless he is married.
HI Cancergirl,
I just want to wish you good luck w/ your Pisces. It sounds like he loves you, just be patient. I am a gemini who has no patience and is confused by a pisces in my life. Aren't they just the more charismatic?
Good luck.
Lipstick
I meant most charismtic. See I am impatient. LOL
Lipstick
Hi
Its cancer girl again!
You wont believe this but after giving up on mr pisces given i tried for a good 3- 4 months to be nice etc and got the hot and cold treatment i resigned myself to the fact that they werent interested.
Anyway he changed departments in work at beginning of april so having not seen him for a few weeks helped also.
Then randomly the other night i egts an email out of the blue saying hi. i asked to what do i owe the pleasure and was told he hadnt seen me in ages and missed me and was having withdrawal symptoms. Seemingly he misses the moments we had together and wishes he could have them back.
I asked about why he backed off and still ahvent had a proper explanation as yet as up to now we are just chatting via email and text but he said he always knew what he wanted but something held him back that he cant explain. then last night he said that he froze because he couldnt believe a girl 10 years younger than him would be interested in in.
I just have a small problem now and thats that i now dont know how i feel anymore im very weary and a part of me thinks ive moved on so i dont know if i wont to go back there with him again.
how typical is that?
Anyway im just going to see how it goes and take it day by day and see how i feel and he is aware that im cautious so we will see what happens.
I know all about pisces men and sympathesize with those women that can't understand them. Well now I do. I was in love with one at work 'cos he was just flirting and being quite witty and humorous. But when I try to get closer then he gives me the cold shoulder and plays 'cold turkey'. However, when I confront him then he switches back to this friendly bloke and getting all flirtatious again. His switching between different identities is "key" to understanding these people. To reiterate: when you appear distant and mysterious to them, they want to know more about you and when you smother them or want their attention too much- then they ignore you for awhile. There is no logic to this for those signs that want a clear answer. I tried to take a pisces by the horns and confront him about his schizo personality and you know what he said to me? He will just tell you that he's very sensitive and don't like this/that and the hilarious thing was he begged me to stop confronting him so directly because he feels uncomfortable.
My second Pisces experience was also with another work colleague and this one is one heck of flirtatious man. The sexy thing about them is that they know how to talk to women because they are so sensitive. Now here comes the but, I also got the same BS from him - sometimes he ignores me completely and then apologizes later. They are a bit sadistic in a way that they like you to be jealous and like to feel needed. Once they think they've got you then they try to manipulate you. And YES - they play with you. You can never expect them to be direct and open about their feelings because in truth, they don't know how they feel truely since they are constantly living in la-la land. It's hard for them to stick their heads out of those clouds and come back down to reality sometimes.
Third experience with a pisces man and actually born on the same day as my previous experience, is married with kids. He is currently a work colleague and the minute I saw his birthdate I was spot on about his behaviour. He gives me a lift everyday and I can tell he wants to sleep with me intuitively by the way he looks at me. What he doesn't know is that I'm just using him for information and his lift. That's all. What is a married men like himself doing with a single attractive woman like me? He must think I'm so naive - not. I think he will get a wake up call when he tries to cross the border between a professional work colleague and a lover. As for me, I'm just playing along and see how far this fish tries to cross the line before I hook him i.e. tell him don't cross the line. :D
I guess that's all I've got to say about my experiences with Pisces men. They are not stable people and you have to be a relatively strong person to take the BS and the mood-swings blah blah. Although, I do agree we should take astrology with a grain of salt, I have to admit astrology can be so true sometimes. As with all personal relationship problems, we need to get back to reality and assess what is normal and what is just plain BS. Then I would just confront the 'abnormal' person and say tell it to them straight - this ain't fair and bring your message across CLEARLY so you don't leave at the end of day feeling like you've been screwed 10X over by someone. This approach has so far worked for me for the last 10 years.
Just by 2 cents.
Have a wonderful life and don't get hung up by one person, it can't be all their fault! One needs to take responsibility and sort out the problem as well.
Well yep its me cancer girl again.
Well i gave it another try with pisces man as such but yet still i feel like im playing the hot and cold game. I feel like i cant win no matter what i do he is super hot one minute and then just goes distant the next so i try and give him space he needs but seems its ok for him to go days without replying to a text of mine yet if i dont text back straight away im sen to be being'off' with him.
Needless to say just prior to exploring whether we did connect still another man began showing an interest.
This man seemed total opposite to pisces man v flirty, no awkwardness or blowing hot and cold however i discovered he is also a pisces who is showing completely different hard to handle traits which im not sure are pisces traits or just his traits as an individual.
He is absolutely gorgeous but knows it and seems to thrive on teasing me about fact he flirts with other people and i dont know if thats just to wind me up and given my sensitive touchy crab like character it hits a nerve and i ahve to act like im not bothered.I feel like i have gone from one extreme to the other one pisces who seems to feel something but yet gets so far and then backs off again but yet i know given he is shy then at leats i feel exclusive. Then theres pisces man no 2 who in alot of ways shows he is interested but i feel like he is probably like that with everyone and feel a bit like im being played.
I think need to just stay away from pisces full stop as both men seem to show affection and then go ice cold as and when it suits!
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